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matt milton
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| Nigel Spencer wrote: | Matt wrote
Really? I don't detect any Circulus influences when I listen to the Bells, other than that both bands do (very different sorts of) epic rather well and share an interest in early music. Is it time for the Gryphon revival yet? I do hope so. We can call it The New Wave of British Early Music or Nu-Early for short or Nearly for even shorter. Anyway, go and see the Bells live Matt - it'll all make perfect sense.
I should also declare that Abandoned Love is one of my albums of the year so far.
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well I wouldn't say the Bells were influenced by Circulus. Or even (backpedalling furiously!) that they sound much like them - on balance a better comparison would be Gorky's Zygotic Mynci I suppose. (I've been reminding myself recently just what a fine band GZM were)
Listening to the Bells' album, you're right, did make me want to be at a festival imbibing vision-inducing amounts of fermented applejuice. But it really boils down to the fact that I've never really been into folk-rock. Two Fairports albums: that's about it for me. |
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Steven Rifmountain
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| Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:09 am Post subject: |
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| Nigel Spencer wrote: |
Is it time for the Gryphon revival yet? I do hope so. We can call it The New Wave of British Early Music or Nu-Early for short or Nearly for even shorter. |
So the perfect time for me to finally unleash my long-planned early music/doom rock fusion project, Early Collins - work-in-progress album title 'Pass the Psaltery'. |
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Nigel Spencer
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| Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:23 am Post subject: |
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Steven wrote | Quote: | | 'Pass the Psaltery'. |
... on the left hand side, one presumes? |
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ian
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| Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:14 am Post subject: |
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| Steven Rifmountain wrote: | | my long-planned early music/doom rock fusion project, Early Collins - work-in-progress album title 'Pass the Psaltery'. |
Oh dear god, not crumhorns and elf shit again. |
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Nigel Spencer
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| Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:51 am Post subject: |
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Ian wrote
If that was the name of a band I'd sign 'em now... |
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RoryG
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| Elf Shit could be the new Small Faeces. |
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Des Bowring
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ian
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| Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Nigel Spencer wrote: | Ian wrote
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Those familiar with long-ago Steeleye Span spin-off projects may be amused to know that the term was reputedly used by another non-involved band member to describe one such album, based on an earlier book . . . |
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Greg Stephens
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Unprincipled b*st*rds and opportunistic bandwagon jumpers they may be at British Underground, I don't know the nuances of the internecine struggles of metropolitan rootie/folkies. But Katie Weatherall, who apparently edits the offending mag, is a great singer and hardcore traddie have a listen to her at Glastonbury(on stage with the legendary Boat Band as it happens)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0ir722BQwI&feature=related
If she's on a folk bandwagon, she been on it a very long time. I applaud her. |
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ian
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| Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Greg Stephens wrote: | | Katie Weatherall . . . Boat Band |
Penny drops. Relation of Tony, presumably? Daughter? |
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diane easby
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| By George, he's got it. |
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Greg Stephens
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| Is there some reason why young folk enthusiasts shouldn't start folk magazines? This really seems to have annoyed Ian Anderson and Simon Hall. And quite what the relevance is that Katie Weatherall's dad is a folkie, I can't imagine. Does this make it all right for her to edit a mag, or make it worse? What's the point of that dig? |
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Nigel Spencer
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| The main problem I'm encountering is that I can't find it when I search on Google... |
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ian
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| Greg Stephens wrote: | | Is there some reason why young folk enthusiasts shouldn't start folk magazines? |
There's nothing wrong with young folkies starting magazines: indeed I wish that more young folkies were even interested in magazines at all!
You've missed the point. What rankles is that a) there's already been some extremely dubious past behaviour in the folk direction by the organisation British Underground, who are launching this magazine and b) that British Underground are funded by Arts Council England, and the Arts Council specifically don't fund magazines.
ACE should raise their collective eyebrows at their development funding apparently being used to set up something in direct competition - even if only for advertising revenue - to existing publications like fRoots, Rock'n'Reel, ED&S, Living Tradition, Maverick etc. Everything mentioned in their press release is already being covered by those or the mainstream media, so it's hardly an area whose needs are not currently being met.
If it was a straightforward commercial venture then there would be a level playing field and no apparent conflict of interest. |
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matt milton
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The magazine itself sounds rather good...
...but Ian's touched on something I was wondering about too.
Britishunderground.net describe themselves as a "specialist music development and international showcase agency working in esoteric, alternative and mainstream music", who are committed to "highlighting the creative edge of British music and culture".
So why aren't they promoting Grime, dubstep, bhangra, funky house etc? While it's nice to have folk music given a (much-needed) platform, it does rather look like white middle-class people are being given Arts Council Funding to promote their white middle-class musician friends.
Not all of british underground's beneficiaries are folk/acoustic-related, but the majority of them appear to be (as far as it's possible to tell from the rather opaque website).
The mag sounds interesting. I hope it lasts longer than the British Underground is likely to: of the Arts Council's existing 800 Regularly Funded Organisations, 200 are to cease receiving funding, while all the others' funding is set to be significantly reduced. |
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